Technical Vito W639

Technical Vito W639

Mercedes Vito W639 Front Road Spring Replacement

 

While parked the front near side spring broke on the 2008 Vito W639.  I noticed a strange rubbing sound when I drove off and investigated.  Having had many coil springs break over my 35 year motoring history I had a good idea of what to expect.

Mercedes w639 broken road spring

Vito broken springs often fail badly without retaining in the strut cup

Unlike a few coil springs that break and the remainder of the coil falls into the strut cup, the Vito generally performs in a more catastrophic manner.  Because of the reduced shape of the spring and relative smaller diameter of the strut support cup, when the lower seated smaller spring turn breaks at its final coil there is little to stop the remaining larger diameter section of the spring rocketing down the damper strut.

Broken spring Mercedes Vito

Here is the smaller diameter spring piece that often fails at the base of the coil

Usually the remainder of the spring will catch and come to rest on the flimsy bracket that supports the ABS sensor and brake pad warning cable restraint.  My advice is if you ever think you hear anything unusual from either corner of the vehicle always have a quick look, as to continue at speed would be very dangerous indeed.

W639 Vito broken spring replacement

You can see how dangerously the spring falls over the small diameter of the support cup – poor failure condition

I managed to get the vehicle home and the next day set about replacing the broken spring. There are many sources of non-dealer spare parts for this model.  You could choose GSF who supply a Lesfojers pattern part spring for about £40.00 or Euro Car Parts who supply the genuine OEM Sachs unit for a little over £60.00 (ECP Part No. 627222210)  These units like the struts themselves, are a universal fit and not handed left or right, this is useful to know if you are sourcing used or breaker parts.

Vito front spring replacement

The strut top bolts are located beneath this panel

The job itself is quite straightforward and as long as you have a competent local garage or the equipment to compress and swap the spring over for you it is well within the realms of the DIY mechanic.

Raise the bonnet and remove both wiper arms noting their position. Take care to pull off each washer fluid pipe from the scuttle deck without breaking the fittings.  Now remove the plastic scuttle that lies beneath the wiper arms.  There are four plastic fixings/rivets, 2 on each side and a row of torx screws on the bulkhead lip. Lift up the central flap that covers the pollen filter and remove the two torx screws and stainless steel filter retainer band.  Raise carefully the released plastic trim at each corner and disconnect the lower supply pipes to the washer jets.  This is quite thick 8mm hard pipe and can be a little stubborn to remove, a straight pull down works best.  Once the washer fluid supply pipes either side are free, remove the two large grommets from the wiper spindles and now you may remove the full length plastic panel.  The panel once jiggled and unlatched from the windscreen lower seal, will lift up the windscreen towards the roof line, through the gap created by the open bonnet.  You will need to fiddle the off  side corner free, as it catches on the bonnet stay hinge.  Lift away the panel and store it carefully until needed.

W639 Vito Strut Removal

Pass-thru socket required to remove the strut top 21mm rod nut

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7mm long series hexagon key and pass-thru socket wrench

In the area of each corner, under the wiper rack you will find a large grommet, remove the required cover to give access to the strut top nut.  You will need a pass-thru socket and wrench that will enable you to hold the strut rod with a 7mm long series hexagon key, whilst undoing the 21mm top nut.  Access is restricted and you may struggle without the correct tools, especially as the wiper rack can hamper both vision and tool operation.  A reader has added this useful tip: “Hi Steve, As an alternative to using a through socket for the nut at the top of the strut I used a spark plug socket from a half inch drive socket set, the type with nut type flats on the outside so a spanner can be used instead of a ratchet. My torx drivers fit through the centre just the same as a through socket only a lot cheaper as most socket sets include such a tool.” – Many thanks Trevor!  Now unscrew the strut top rod nut almost to its end, just leaving a finger-tight couple of turns to full removal.

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Strut mount beneath protective grommet – restricted access

Now raise the vehicle and remove the road wheel.  Either support the van from its sill jacking point or front sub-frame, to allow the front wishbone to fully descend once jacked.  Remove the plastic support clip that retains the ABS and pad sensor cables from the strut, unclip the brake hose support at the rear and find a selection of wooden blocks in preparation for the next stage.

Mercedes Vito Hub removal

Upper and lower hub carrier bolts. Top bolt is a cam type adjuster to control camber angle – be sure to mark its position before disassembly

Remove the roll bar drop link using a torx socket and 18mm spanner, rest it out of the way of the strut.  Mark with paint the upper cam type (camber) adjuster bolt on the strut hanger to hub. Use a 21mm spanner and socket to remove this pin and its matching non-adjustable lower relative. Carefully pull the hub out of the strut mounting and support it on the blocks of wood to prevent damage to the brake pipe or attached cabling.

With the lower fixing of the strut free, support it while you undo the final turns of the strut top rod nut.  The strut can now be removed towards the front of the vehicle.

Mercedes Vito W639 Hub Removal

Support the hub carrier on wooden blocks or other support

Recently I have started to use the services of a local garage to ‘swap’ springs over on struts as although possible, using the cheap or sometimes even ‘professional’ threaded rod type compressors can be hazardous.  All Mercedes front struts springs are under immense compression and it makes far more sense to pay £10 for the pleasure and have someone do this with the proper floor mounted spring compressor – usually in a fraction of the time it takes to do it with rod type compressors and also without the associated risk of injury!  Well worth it in my book…  Just a note, be sure to take note of the condition of the top strut mount, as this is a perfect time to replace it if worn.  Also if your collapse caused the top mount to come apart, make sure all the ball bearings that are contained within the top swivel race are recovered and replaced correctly before refitting the spring onto the strut.

Mercedes front strut replacement Vito 2008

Strut with new spring fitted

The newly sprung strut can then be refitted to the van.  Feed the strut into the wheel arch tower. It is better to fix the strut to hub bolts loosely first as this will aid reassembly.  Clip back the brake hose and cable support.  Use a scissor jack under the hub or have an assistant hold the unit up to feed the damper rod through the chassis, so you can replace the top nut and washer, only to finger tightness this at this point.

Tightening vito hub correctly

Use the G clamp to apply pressure to hold the hub carrier in its correct position while tightening the carrier bolts

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Ensure correct camber angle by realigning to your paint marks

Now tighten the lower bolt on the strut to hub flanges and just ‘nip’ it up.  Place a G-Clamp onto the raised locator pip on the hub casting and the other side at the back of the strut leg.  Apply tension to draw the eccentric adjuster into contact with the raised stop on the side of the strut flange, rotate the cam adjuster to its marked position adjusting the G clamp as you go.  This will ensure the hub carrier is drawn back fully to the adjuster while you tighten the upper clamp bolt fully.  The position of this adjuster is critical to the camber angle adjustment of the road wheel and care should be taken to get it back in its correct place, as if not, without doubt tyre wear and handling will suffer.  Retighten the matching lower fixed pin in the hub carrier and build up the rest of the wheel assembly.  Once you have lowered the vehicle to the ground you can finally fully tighten the strut top nut and build up the complete wiper panel as a reverse of disassembly.

W639 Vito Spring Repair

Hub carrier mount showing paint marking to upper eccentric cam bolt

Test the wipers for correct positioning and road test the vehicle.  Job well done!

Mercedes Vito W639 ABS Pump – Brake Pipe Identification

I could not find this information anywhere, so I have put a notated image together to identify and show which brake pipe goes where on the Mercedes Vito W639.  The notation of pipe locations will be carried across all ranges including Sprinter although the pump/controller module may differ slightly in design.  The main ABS pump/controller body is stamped with markings next to each hydraulic port, you will find below the identification of these and where the connected pipes are routed.

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Mercedes Vito W639 ABS Pump – Pipe Identification

New turbo – still no boost! Mercedes Sprinter

 
A Mercedes 4 cylinder Luton body vehicle came to me with a turbo boost problem.  The owner complained that when driving it felt like it had lost all the boost.  On gentle acceleration it was drivable, but under any real load it did not produce any power to speak of and smoked from the exhaust.  The history of the vehicle was that this fault had been occurring for a month or two prior to the turbo failing catastrophically on the motorway.

I checked all the hose work and intercooler for problems with leaks or splits and nothing obvious was found.  A shiny new turbo was present under the bonnet (hood) and looked to be functioning correctly.  The vane actuating lever was moving under engine load and all looked well with the vac control valve, vac supply pipes etc.

A quick read of the ECU with the code reader showed that there was a low boost fault code stored (no surprise there!)  Selecting the live data view on the code reader revealed an atmospheric pressure of 990 mb and a boost pressure of 1010 mb at idle, on a test drive under load the boost produced did not rise above 1150 mb (absolute) , sure enough no boost but why?  I made sure the % on/off signal to the actuator was calling for full boost at this point on live data just to confirm it was not being told by the ECU to apply this amount of low boost.

I had previously mentioned the vacuum lines that feed the turbo boost controller were good and the feed line to the actuator itself was perfect.

As normal, once started, the lever of the turbo vane actuator dropped just as it should to charge position at idle.  I moved the actuator by hand and noticed that although the lever was pulling down under vac, it was not pulling fully down, there was a good 6-8mm of travel left in the lever at its maximum actuated position, though it could be pushed down yet further to its ‘mechanical stop’ with a screwdriver.

My first thought was: there was not enough vac available to fully actuate the turbo – not the case.  Was the turbo boost actuator valve faulty? – not the case. Vacuum actuator diaphragm holed or leaking – no as it held perfect vacuum.

Mercedes Sprinter Turbo Rebuild

Undo the lock nut on the actuator rod (yellow painted here) to the right of this is a knurled adjusting wheel. Adjust to set the required rod lenght (Until a full vac condition holds the vane lever to its maximum on the mechanical stop)

After a while it occurred to me that the reason the vane lever on the turbo was not being pulled down enough was the fact the turbo actuator was at the end of its mechanical stroke.  Removing the small circlip on the actuator rod eye and removing it from the turbo vane lever I was able to adjust the length of the arm. This was done by slackening the 10mm lock nut on the rod and screwing the knurled adjuster, shortening the rod length. This allowed the rod to now pull the lever fully down onto its mechanical stop under full vacuum stroke.  The small circlip was replaced and road tests carried out.

We had now regained the lost boost, the van pulled like a train in all gears. Success!  Since the van had recently had a new turbo fitted, obviously no adjustment had been carried out to the actuator stroke, it was just swapped over from the old turbo to the new one.  After correct adjustments, road tests proved max boost was in the normal range (2447 mb absolute / 21 psi) and expected performance restored. I suppose the moral of the story here is never assume that just changing the turbo without correctly setting up the controlling actuator stroke, will work out of the box.

I hope you find this cautionary tale informative and it may just draw your attention to this issue should it ever pass your way. NB. The reason the fault was noticed before the turbo blew and was replaced with the new unit was because: The old turbo was failing and could not produce useable boost – Same issue and symptoms (no/little boost}, just different totally different causes!

Mystery fan noise in cabin when ignition off – Vito W639

I recently was sent a question with regard the hearing of a fan noise/running in the cabin of the Mercedes Vito W639 when everything is turned off. This noise is often mistaken as the ventilation fan (blower) running, even though the fan position switch is at the off position.

Here is the original question:

Message:
HI, I recently purchased a 2008 vito W639 111 and when I start the
engine the heater fan is also on, even thou the fan switch is in the
off position.
Have you heard of this on any other vans and is there a remedy that I
can do to fix this issue.

Here is my reply:

I can only assume that what you are hearing is:
There is a small fan (like a computer fan) that operates under the control of the ECU that cools the large plastic fuse/ECU box under the bonnet, this obviously has a mechanical connection to the area behind the dash on the passenger side. As this fan ages it becomes more a little more noisy and can sound like the cabin air fan is spinning on low RPMs. It also runs when the ignition is on and engine not running and continues for a controlled period after the engine is stopped, you can force it to stop by turning the ignition on and off a second time.  There is also a small fan that cools the rear of the radio (similar thing), this is on the inside right of the radio cage within the dash if you were to remove the radio.  This one gets really noisy with age !
So nothing to worry about unless the cabin air circulation fan is actually running!, which I think you may well be mistaken about.
Hope this helps, if not just email back with a little more detail.
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Mercedes Vito w639 Fusebox Fan

A further note –
Just as a point of note the fuse box/ECU cooling fan is at the bottom of the plastic fuse box housing in the engine bay (picture above) and once its bearings get a little worn the box aids to amplify the noisy fan motion and it appears quite loud in the cabin area, often mistaken as the cabin ventilation fan running.

Mercedes Vito W639 Paint Code – Location

 

The location of the paint code sticker on the Mercedes Vito (W639) 2005 – on is the near side passenger door (UK) frame just above the upper door hinge.  The reference number you will require to get a paint colour match is the number printed on the approximate centre of the ‘white-on-black’ printed label after the word  – ‘Lack.’  –  (German for Paint or Coating).

Mercedes Vito W639 Paint Code Location

Mercedes Vito W639 Paint Code Location