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  • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi,steve ,just need to add that my sprinter has the sprint shift gear box,thanks for the easy to follow logical approach to the problems listed.Russ

    • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi steve ,thanks for the reply have been busy with work lately but we plan to go away in a week or two so I thought I had better look at the van again.took It up the motorway today but there does not seem to be any boost from the turbo.At home I have taken the air box off to check for any thing obvious.There is a tiny air leak from somewhere,but the van has always had this slight leaking sound after turning the engine off, it lasts about 1 min then stops.I have traced it to the turbo boost actuator valve.Heres the brain stormer……if I disconnect the tube from the turbo boost actuator to the vacuum actuator,and place my finger on the connection under the turbo boost actuator ,where I had pulled the tube from, the air leak stops and I feel a suction on my finger.If I start the van with the pipe still off the vacuum actuator not alot seems to happen but If I keep the pipe off and then put my finger back on the bottom of the turbo actuator the air intake sounds like a turnado, if I pull my finger off again the rushing sound goes again.So is the boost actuator at fault or is the vacuum actuator leaking air to the turbo actuator?The connection pipe between the two seems okay.Many thanks.Russ

      • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

        Hi steve, I have got my information mixed up!I have double checked today…..the air leaking sound is coming from the boost actuator.Its coming from the ventoutlet for about 1 min after the engine is turned off,the noise stops when I put my finger over the vent tube.When the engine is stopped,there is suction on this pipe ,WHEN THE ENGINE IS RUNNING THERE IS ALSO SUCTION ON THIS PIPE!.If I start the engine with all pipes connected except the vent pipe(under the boost actuator), the vacuum actuator pulls the turbo rod down hill as it should,if I rev the engine the rod does move slightly up and down,but the vent tube connection under the actuator is sucking in air ,quite strongly,I thought that once the engine is running there should be no pressure on the atmos- vent?Whilst the engine is running I got my son to rev it alittle whilst I messed about under the bonnet,what I found is that if I block the atmos-vent with my finger and revved the engine the vacuum boost arm woiuld not move but the air flow sounded like a tornado,does this mean that the boost actuator is stuck and not changing the pressure in the actuator from atmos-vent to boost valve? I have taken the boost valve off the van and pushed its rod back into its body(as if it were in vacuum state) then put my finger on the inlet tube under the unit,the rod moved back only alittle and stopped in position ,keeping avacuum until I moved my finger off the inlet tube,so I guess that its okay.Many thanks ,Russ

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          From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          Hi Russ,
          If you have removed the air box you will see a small plastic ball about the size of a cricket ball. This is the vacuum reserve – make sure this is not the source of the leak, if so replace – this is providing the vac you can hear once the engine is off. From what you explain it seems more likely the actuator valve is faulty under the air box and not functioning as it should, especially as you say it makes a loud sucking sound. The ‘atmos’ is a discharge vent (breathe out) that vents stored vacuum in the turbo actuator line via the valve allowing it to extend the rod again when needed. Constant vac here would most probably indicate a leak internal to the valve – at least something is not as it should be with the actuator valve!
          All the best
          Steve

          • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Hi Steve,just a quick up date on the van,I replaced the boost sensor,actuator valve and the vacuum reserve( still has the same air leak sound but I needed to put the van back together for a short break in snowdonia last week.No problems the van pulled like a train,and strangely,no puffs of smoke that I used to get when accelerating,very odd.I just would like to say thanks for the advice and keep up the great work .Many thanks .Russ

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Fantastic news!! Glad it worked out. It may be worth you checking the brake servo hard plastic hose line that runs from the servo to the vac pump on the front of the engine, these can wear through especially where they cross the top of the radiator. Small hole draw vac making a noise similar to what you hear. I would have expected if this was the case that the brake efficiency was down a little though (hard pedal).
            Keep in touch
            Steve

          • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Thanks Steve,I have ordered a new boost actuator,or as my merc dealer calls it, a transducer…should be able to fit it early next week,will let you know how things progress,heres to fingers crossed ! P.S I have also ordered a pressure sensor so will fit this at the same time.Many thanks Russ

  • From russ on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi,I have a sprinter motorhome based on a sprinter 416, 2001.Heres the problem,took the van for a mot last year,passed no problem,but seemed to be very under powered on the way back home ,30 mph roads,thought nothing of it.Went away on holiday to holland,very flat roads,seemed under powered on the way there.but coming back home up the A14 ,read long hills there was no power at all.The van seemed okay before the mot, the only thing that I can think of is when the engineer asked me to rev the engine for the exhaust gases to be analised I reved it alittle harder than I would normally do.It was only for asecond or two.Would this cause the engine to effectivly go into limp mode,nothing showing on the dash;Many thanks.

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Russ,
      The MOT blast should not really have caused any issues, its more likely if it is connected to this event that a Turbo boost hose is leaking or is split allowing boost to escape. On this age of vehicle not always does an EDC lamp illuminate. Check all the hoses and connections post turbo, as I have stated before look for black oil staining as this is usually a dead give away to the location of a boost leak (especially on the intercooler entrance and exit pipes). Check the vac connections are sound and that the turbo actuator moves on a rev. (No movement = no boost being called for) The manifold/boost pressure sensor may be faulty / misreading, its a cheap component in the big scheme of things and is well worth a swap. Really all the fault codes will be stored, if you can get them read and then just rectify ‘exactly’ what is indicated as the problem and see how you go. Often £40 spent at an independent for a code read at this stage will save you a great deal of time and money in the long run.
      Good luck, do let me know how you get on.
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Mr Yusoff Sanusi on Mercedes C Class W203 - Dim Multi-Function Instrument Display (MFD) - LCD Panel Replacement

    I have problem of my C200 of LED display, totally no sign. Do you have nay person can I contact in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

    Regards, yusoff

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes C Class W203 - Dim Multi-Function Instrument Display (MFD) - LCD Panel Replacement

      Hi Yusoff
      Try here : http://www.mybenz.org/zoopp/html/modules/mylinks/viewcat.php?cid=8
      Regards
      Steve

      • From Yusoff on Mercedes C Class W203 - Dim Multi-Function Instrument Display (MFD) - LCD Panel Replacement

        Hi Steve, tq fr your list of mechanics in Malaysia. Actually, last week I had change the LCD display monitor by new one that ordered from Uk, unfortunately it only working for a few minutes, when i drive the car the LCD is sometimes working and sometimes not, My mechanics said it is due to the failure of cluster software. What is your opinion?

        Regards, Yusoff

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          From Steve Ball on Mercedes C Class W203 - Dim Multi-Function Instrument Display (MFD) - LCD Panel Replacement

          Hi Yusoff,
          Its difficult to say what is the problem without seeing first hand the issues. The primary thing to identify is if the illumination LED array at the rear of the pixel panel is failing. Without back light illumination the display will look blank. If all the other instrument function correctly then I would suspect this. Maybe you could look for the regulator circuit that feeds the LED light panel (matrix of orange LEDs) If however there are odd pixels failing and the display is erratic in what it actually displays (strange characters and the back light is ON) then I would look toward the display driver IC circuit to be faulty. There are people that repair instrument clusters, I think you also have the option of replacing the complete unit with a used one. This can be done cheaply, but I am sure that you would have to accept the miles/Km showing on the odometer as that of the donor vehicle – unless you can find some one to change the mileage to that of your old one. The truth is, if you find such a person there is a good chance he can fix your existing instruments anyway! Personally I would check out the power regulators on the PCB if the backlight is found to be intermittent.
          All the best
          Steve

  • From Eddy on Leaking Headlamp Washer Jet - Cure

    Hi this helped a lot but I found my unit came out the back, but alas it did not stop my leak it must be something in side the unit but thanks a lot

  • From Mike Parodi on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi Steve, many thanks for your reply, I’ve been a reader of the posts on sprinter source as well as other similar forums and found them very useful in the past. Your write up on the subject I found to be the most informative.

    I understand what you mean about the scatter gun but seems to be the approached used by both Mercedes and the local garage. My faith in the so called professionals is somewhat lacking because despite their “Diagnostics” into the the fuel problems which kept tripping the EDC system as well as poor running its had a new fuel pressure regulator, hp pump, fuel filters, all 4 injectors reconditioned (they were over fueling but it didn’t cure the fault at the time) hours of pondering and avoiding phone calls. It was finally fixed on 1 occasion by me replacing the return valve on top of the fuel filter (thanks sprinter source) the other 2 by the garage repairing a damaged wire in the engine loom. Over £2000 spent and fixed with a bit of black plastic and some wire.

    This intermittent LHM started occurring before the above so feel that it not fuel related. The ecu has logged the following codes amongst others over the last 3 visits.

    P1470 Charge pressure low
    P1470 Charge pressure neg Control, Charge pressure low
    P1470 Charge pressure neg control, charge pressure high
    P0105 B5/1 Charge pressure volts to high
    This what led me to changing the parts that i have,
    I will check out the sensor you suggest as that is 1 thing that hasn’t been replaced.

    Could you tell me the purpose of the clutch switch as detailed in your write up when the van is moving? it will rev freely with clutch pressed in when in LHM mode which you say won’t happen with the van stationary.

    The other thing i hope you could tell me is what is the sensor or component that is in the crank case vent hose where it joints the turbo air inlet? the wiring for this also runs through the main loom where there has been so much trouble.

    Thanks again for your time in replying to my post.
    regards
    Mike

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Mike,
      It does seem that the boost pressure is up and down, or at least the reported signal to the ECU is, that P1470 indicates that. Give the pressure sensor a try, I have indicated the position of this on the T1N Sprinter in the write up somewhere and am pretty sure you will find it in a similar location. I think often even the ‘so called experts’ are baffled by what they see on the code reader, the truth is they are and have been trained to use that alone, all the old fashioned fault finding – understanding the principals of what is happening – now plays little part in modern diagnostics. Indeed often a problem with one element will cause an indication on the code reader that is more of a result of the problem than the cause! I have always found it better to try and understand the issues along side what the ‘magic device’ tells you, this way you get a better focus on the problems at hand. (My two pence worth anyway)

      There are two switches at play on the pedal box, the first is the clutch switch that stops the vehicle being over revved when stationary, this can be over ridden by the ‘up down method’ to test and see if the engine will rev over 3000, in other words see if it is in a fault condition without showing an EDC light etc. The other is an area that may be worth a look is the brake light switch. This is a dual switch and lies not surprisingly above the brake pedal. This not only provides the signal to the rear stop lamps but there is a second set of contacts that tell the ECU that the vehicle is being retarded and signals not to apply boost. You can test this out on a vehicle that is working correctly, drive in 3rd gear at a medium pace, then cover the brake with your LEFT foot and while applying gentle pressure to the pedal, try and accelerate with your right foot on the throttle – it will not allow you to and the engine stumbles! I suppose this is a ‘fail safe’ that if in an emergency braking condition you stamp the boards, catching the throttle with your size 12s would not make any difference to the level of stopping distance. I am pretty sure that it is just a safety feature. The dual switch body is a known trouble spot, just because the brake lights work, does not indicate that the secondary part of the switch is functioning correctly. Could be worth a look – its known but rare that this gives problems – but who knows!

      The ‘T Piece’ device with a pair of wires to it you can see in the crank case breather hose, where it joins the turbo inlet pipe (from the air box) is in fact a small heater ! This operates in extreme low temperatures to stop water vapour or emulsion from freezing in the pipe blocking the crank case breather so I doubt that this will be the source of the problem even though its supply is in the suspect loom section, unless of course it is shorting out and causing fuses to blow etc.

      I hope that helps you out Mike, keep in touch and let me know how you get on. I am about to go and change a disc and pad set on a LWB 313 this morning and then onward to a front spring and leg on a Clio, so a busy day ahead – hope the weather stays good.

      All the best
      Steve

  • From Bill hanily on Unusual Intermittent Electrical Power Problems Mercedes Sprinter

    Have 616 2004 mod gone into limp mode .Has been put computer it said low boost pressure, but they tell me the trubo is stuffed .So how come when they clear all the codes it runs like a charm ,if the turbo had it why when they plugged it into computer it comes good .I drive trucks for a living as far as as i know a turbo either works or does not

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      From Steve Ball on Unusual Intermittent Electrical Power Problems Mercedes Sprinter

      Hi Bill,
      As you have probably read there is a great deal that can cause the issues you have. With regard to the turbo itself, you are correct that it either spools and compresses or it does not, but there is a middle ground – does it produce enough boost to always be in the required load range (worn turbo) or is the actuating mechanism intermittent causing an occasional no boost condition that sets the vehicle into LHM. I am suprised in many ways that the performance returns only on a ‘code reset’ because normally the codes would be recorded and once the problem was rectified or had righted itself (if intermittent), then normal driving condition should be resumed without further intervention. Maybe that is a pointer to the problem?. Check the connections to the ECU for corrosion as water is known to get through the bulkhead grommet and run down the loom into the ECU connectors. If you see a problem here, clean up the contacts and connector blocks then prevent further water ingress. (Worth a look as I have been caught out with unusual gremlins caused by this fault before)

      Maybe I would also look to swapping out the MAP sensor in the induction pipework post turbo, or at least cleaning it with some carb spray to see if there is any improvement. This is a common device that fails regularly by reporting incorrect boost pressures to the ECU and it could just be the problem.
      Let me know how you get on.
      Best Regards and good luck
      Steve

  • From Mike Parodi on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi Steve, can you help please?
    I have a 2005 311cdi which has an intermittent LHM fault and similar to Duncan’s it feels as if the brakes are on.. It can be fine for a 1000 miles or do it 3 times in less than 5. Sometimes the turbo kicks back in by itself after as little as 5 secs, other times it needs the ignition switching off and restarting.

    I found that the jubillee clip on the charge air pipe was a bit loose where it connects to the sensor housing (very oily) which didn’t cure the problem. Since then I have changed the both the boost valve and sensor but still no permanent fix.

    As a european courier it doesn’t take long to do a 1000 miles. thing I have noticed is that when in LHM if I press the clutch in the engine revs let the clutch back up and its stuck at 3000.

    Any advice that you could give would be very much appreciated,
    regards
    Mike

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Mike,
      If you have checked most of things mentioned in the blog post then it may be a fuel pressure or fuel pressure sensor problem. There is a pressure transducer that lives in the end of the HP fuel delivery rail and it is quite common for the two ‘O’ ring seals to perish and cause some issues, although usually its more to do with starting than low boost. However the most sensible thing to do would be to get an independant garage to read the vehicle and list you the fault codes – go straight in and sort the defined issues instead of the ‘scatter gun’ approach that often runs away with money at a great rate of knots.
      There is one other thing that I have had cause similar problems – on the right hand side of the engine under the bonnet, beneath the inlet manifold you will see the low pressure fuel delivery sensor in a T piece connector. This has a connector that faces down toward the road and often becomes loose or a poor connection, should this electrical connector become disconnected or corroded, the ECU gets a ‘high fuel delivery pressure’ signal and cuts back the vehicle into LHM. I cannot say that this will be the cause but on more than one occasion now this has been the problem and is well worth the short time to check before moving on.
      You may wish to have a look at a fellow posters information here: http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7173 there is a few pointers and suggestions for you to try without me retyping. I really think the best advice would be to get the fault codes read and move forward from there.

      I hope you get sorted, do let me know what you find.
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Rayhaan on Mercedes Benz Sound 5 Radio CD Player HA1111 Hidden Test Mode Menu

    Hello, I have a problem with my radio on my Vito
    The fm radio was on and I push my cd in for it to play but it kept on coming back out… After a few tries the cd went in and the radio stayed on but all the Manuel functions were not working.. When I switched of the car and now the radio is died.. Checked the fuse and that’s fine
    Anything I can fix myself
    Rayhaan

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Benz Sound 5 Radio CD Player HA1111 Hidden Test Mode Menu

      Hi there,
      It may just be worth removing the radio and disconnecting the power for a short time to reset it, should it have locked up the processor. Although from what you describe I do think that there could be a more serious problem with the unit and maybe a specialised repair will be nessesary.
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Duncan Edwards on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi steve can you help!
    I have a 56 plate sprinter 311 I was driving it home on Saturday I pulled over and turned it off. I then started it up and pulled off I started to get to about 85 and then it started to slow down and I found not get anymore than 65/70 and Struggled in sixth gear,and now it feels like the abs is kicking in!? Can you help please

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Duncan,
      It would be good to check induction hoses for leaks, especially at the joins/hose clips to the intercooler. Usually oil staining indicates a boost leak at the joints. Make sure the vac hose to the turbo actuator is not split and is a good fit on the spigot. Check out the other fault finding tips in the post and let me know how you get on.
      All the best
      Steve

      • From Duncan Edwards on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

        Thanks steve
        I’ve only just got to read this. I’ve been into my local garage today they plug it in and it worked fine for about 30 miles. I’ve gone back to the garage again this evening they plug it in and they give me a fault code of 2511 which I don’t know what it is,so they cleared the fault again but now it’s gone back into Limp mode again and now the engine management light has come on with the esp light, can you help me on this one thank you

        • From Duncan Edwards on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          Also the EGR code come up this morning

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Hi Duncan,
            I would guess there lies your problem: Code 2511 (001) Component Y27 (Exhaust gas recirculation positioner) does not function properly. Positioner signal fault.
            Here is your first port of call. It may be you can get away with cleaning it but I am unsure if there was a recall 06,07,08 with this component as it was modified because of reported failures (This may have been on the Vito but remains sketchy in my memory) Either way this is the best place to start. Its a rotary device driven by a stepper motor and gets all gummed up with soot. Worth a try.
            All the best
            Steve

  • From peter llewellyn on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi I have a Mercedes 413 cdi diesel turbo sprinter leisure seeker winniebago in the last few months we have been having trouble maintaining any speed up hills seems like we lose power all though on the flat it seems ok most of the time any suggestions please

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi there,
      My suggestion would be to check all hose connections on the induction side, post turbo. It sounds if you may have a boost leak under heavy load. Check all the hose clips to and from the intercooler, if you see oil staining/film around the joint there is a good chance you have found the source of the leak. Check also the large induction hose that goes to the inlet manifold, this splits underneath, along its length where it escapes casual inspection by eye. Take the hose off and look for faults by flexing the hose between your fingers. I will place my money on this being the problem. Good luck.
      Regards
      Steve