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  • From Steve on Mercedes Diesel Injector Advice - Sprinter and others

    Hi, Interesting topic.. I have a Merc C270 that has been botched in terms of the Injector bolt hole but have sorted that out. Fitted new seals but still have a slight leak so am going to cut new seats. I have bought the Honda washers but the question I have is what type of seat should I be cutting..a domed seat or a flat. looking at the seals they are slightly domed and logic would dictate the use of a domed cutter. Hope someone can offer up some quick advice . Steve

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Diesel Injector Advice - Sprinter and others

      Hi there,
      The mating faces of the head are cut flat and washer compresses and deforms to make a gas tight seal, well that’s the idea anyway. You can get relatively cheap tools to recut the face, its rather like an end mill attached to an arbour to keep it parallel to the bore.
      Good luck, all the best Steve

  • From zubair on Mercedes Sprinter Radio Code Decoder

    hi i was try 53331 but after that it says wait n nothing happen it stick on the wait its no go throught kindly tell me what can i do now because now it dont say code when ever i can open it says wait thanks

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Radio Code Decoder

      It seems the incorrect code is not being input. If the other alternatives I sent do not work I have no more suggestions sorry. After several times trying the wrong code the radio locks out and you will have to wait a couple of hours before having another 3 attempts. The radio must be left powered (switched on) for the allotted reset period, before having another go.
      All the best Steve

  • From Mike G on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    HI Steve – your knowledge of sprinters is amazing !

    the van does not have an edc fault – i had a fuel pump fail some years again and i have seen that before

    i am wondering if i have a boost leak somewhere maybe in the intercooler – i have not been able to get someone to read the fault code because of the round connector.

    when you switch the van on the actuator moves and it moves when the revs are picked up also

    i suppose it is possible the vanes are worn / blocked up and the turbo actuator is a bit lazy

    i have been able to get the van to drive ok by blanking the atm port on the boost solenoid – this means there is vacum even when the ecu tries to stop any boost. It does not drive great but is ok cruising on the motorway

    i will try again to get the fault read

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Again Mike,
      Thanks for the accolade!
      If you have a boost leak the tell tale sign will be black oil staining, this will usually be where the hoses connect to the intercooler as they are hard to get at and frequently under tightened. Inspect the matrix of the intercooler for black oil patches from a hole or fracture caused by either accident or stone damage.
      The most common place for a split is in the big hose that finally joins the inlet manifold, this splits underneath where you cannot see it, so take off the hose and have a good look – sometimes the split only says hello when you flex the pipe or when its under a certain boost pressure, however I expect you should hear it wheezing.
      The turbo actuator rod end is connected to a small linkage that disappears into the turbo body this moves the vanes on the inside, you can see how on the photos of the turbo re-core/rebuild post on the site. I have seen the shaft wear the casting through which it passes, so as it moves, it not so much rotates but pushes up. This has the internal effect of disengaging the lobe that shifts the vane ring inside, so in truth the vanes never reach a full boost angle as the mechanics have worn. With the correct code reader you should be able to see the boost pressure fluctuating and make an assumption from actual fact and not guess work.
      You could pull the boost pressure sensor out and give it a good clean off with carb cleaner as these do get sooted/oiled up. Don’t scrub it, just spray and shake it dry as its quite fragile. You have possibly fixed the turbo boost to max with your mod, it should perform OK as a temporary fix – but boy, will it use some diesel!
      If you take look at the back of the plastic composite intake manifold (4cyl models), by the bulkhead, it has a removable panel about the size of the palm of your hand with a rubber O ring seal, if the van has backfired at some point (through using easystart or some other issue) this silicone seal can ooze or squidge out of its seat and you get a very well hidden boost leak from that point. Worth a look.
      A boost leak would normally cause the motor to smoke badly from the exhaust on acceleration as there is an air deficit, making for diesel rich combustion, Do you see this ? – if not we may be into a fuel delivery issue in preference to boost.
      Let me know how you get on.
      Steve

      • From Mike G on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

        i tried several places today to get the fault code read – nobody has the old style connector to read the sprinter ecu 🙁

        i met a mechanic who has had a similar problem and fixed it by cleaning the turbo vanes

        there is a kit on ebay to clean it out

        has anyone tried it ?

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          From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          Hi Mike,
          No kit required for a vane strip and clean, just need a bit of time. Dismantle and rebuild covered in Sprinter Turbo rebuild post.
          Regards Steve

          • From Mike G on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            just wanted to give you an update – i took the actuator rod off and pulled it about and it was all good for a few days then it was overboosting again

            i have fitted a small spring that pulls the actuator so it is extended ( i figured the actuator spring had gone soft over time )

            all seems good the turbo spools up really good and the van performance seems very crisp

            thanks again for all the advice (y)

          • From mike on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            HI Steve – i think i found the problem !!

            i cleaned up the pipes and intercooler with some brake cleaner and the oil residue came back

            today i removed the grill and bumper and the end of the intercooler has cracked !

            i hit a bird some time ago when driving and it must have cracked a little and now the crack is bad. I have taken the intercooler out and bonded it back together – if the repair does not last i have time to get a replacement.

            i will put it back together this afternoon and let you know if the problem is gone 🙂

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Fantastic news, that will be the fault without doubt. I bet it was all nice and black with oil staining ! I have myself seen road debris holes in the matrix made from stones and flints kicked up by forward traffic.
            Well done,
            best regards Steve

          • From Mike G on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            a quick update

            the intercooler was repaired and unfortunately the repair did not last

            a new intercooler was fitted and it is drving a lot better ! I thought we are fixed

            however the ecu is dropping power for a few secs and then going back on again mostly in top geat

            so it looks like i had 2 problems

            my guess is the vanes in the turbo are moving too slowly so we see an overboost when they open – the problem seems to happen in the 2000 to 2300 rpm range at light / part throttle

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Mike do not discount a sticking or rough actuator that may be hesitating at a certain point on the turbo boost stroke. Worth investigating.
            Good so far. All the best Steve

          • From mikeg on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Thanks again for the advice. I guess sticky actuator could be the problem. I have checked it moves up and down and has no leaks.

            Does it have an internal spring etc

            I guess the only way to tell is to fit a new one ?

            Speak soon

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Good morning Mike, Weather is good so Ideal for messing!
            The actuator rod is sprung to be extended, so the vac pulls it in and shortens it. Its not a huge effort to remove it and have a play, a good WD40 blast and a bit of movement outside of its fixed geometry when fitted to the turbo, will usually clear any roughness on the shaft (that’s the main culprit) because its upside down on the vehicle you cant see easily if its rusted on the shaft just as it enters the diaphragm. You should be able to push/pull the rod and feel for yourself once its disconnected from the vane operating lever. When its off just check the small vane lever that goes through the casting on the turbo, if its worn and has over 1mm to 2mm of oval in the hole, then the lever inside can disengage from the vane operating ring at a pint in its travel, you can see how this works inside from the photos on the turbo rebuild. Worth a look at the shaft though.
            All the best
            Steve

          • From mike on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            quick update – i had the heat shield off and took a look at the actuator

            nothing worn or stuck

            i pushed the arm from one to the other a few times and took it for a drive

            so far it seems to be ok !!!!!!!!!!!!!

            i will keep you posted if it plays up again

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          From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-SPRINTER-VW-LT-14-PIN-OBD-to-ODB2-16-PIN-CAR-DIAGNOSTIC-ADAPTER-CABLE-/400595734740?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item5d455dd0d4

          This what you will need, old style round to new adapter. If you can get some one with the compatible reader for the vehicle (Sprinter Software) you could buy this and let them use it.
          All the best Steve

  • From Rob Jones on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi Steve
    I too have similar problems as above on my 311 2003 sprinter but have already fixed some of them. When i got the van it would run fine albeit for the black death which has been sorted rather cheaply but properly the van would run fine and happily go faster than i wanted. After fixing it felt like a bag of spanners so had it’s code read 3 things no3 injector fault on the firing cleared no more probs I had replaced this injector so an old code. Now the next one high pressure fuel pump shut off switch my high pressure pump has a switch on the main body of the pump is this it? the connector is not holding very well but is on or is the switch the one at the end of a fuel line off a t piece that goes to the low pressure and high pressure pump I have been searching for a pic of it but cant find one and my third fault was a turbo boost pressure fault I have checked the boost actuator valve and wiring it has voltage and varies as it should but van feels like it has no power. The boost actuator has vacuum pressure as i took off the pipe to the turbo off and put my finger over it it sucked not very hard but it sucked. Now my problem is the problem of no boost down to the high pressure problem or is the boost actuator or a faulty turbo. I popped into the nearest dealer to me to price the boost actuator and the pressure switch needles to say i was not overly impressed with how much so would rather replace one not both. I have no idea now which way to go.

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Rob,
      The T piece fuel sensor on the right side (when looking into the engine bay) of the block/cylinder head seam area is the supply fuel line low pressure sensor, the HP shut off sensor is the one on the HP body as you mentioned. You need to check the turbo actuator is moving freely and shifting the internal vanes of the turbo, rev the engine and watch the actuator rod, it should move – if not rectify this.
      If you rev the engine you should normally feel the intake induction hose go hard under pressure, this indicates crudely you have some boost. It is possible for lightly driven or vehicles that have spent a period of standing to have a seized turbo actuator rod, you need to check this out first.
      As you have some vacuum at the actuator feed pipe then its worth a shot to clarify the movement of the actuator and accordingly the small lever on the turbo body that moves the internal vanes for at least some movement before pointing the finger at anything else.
      Let me know how you get on.
      All the best
      Steve

      • From Rob Jones on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

        Cheers Steve will look at the turbo now as the top hose does not go hard firms up a touch but not a lot will let you know what I find.

        Rob

        • From Rob Jones on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          Hi Steve update decided to tackle the switch on the high pressure pump being loose removed rad and other bits managed to get it to stay on but to be sure used the old faithful cable tie trick to keep it on replaced everything. Now on to the turbo started van actuator rod moved down but seemed to stop 3/4 of the way down gave it a tap with the screwdriver i mean a tap no hammers used here it moved the rest of the way rev’d engine after employing reluctant wife to do revving it moved up down freely no stopping or jamming or sideways movement bingo (put it down to crud from the strip down), turned off replaced shield started up no warning lights then edc came on but van revved fine all the way to 4k and hose went a lot harder had a quick look round noticed low pressure switch cable connector reluctant to stay put cable tie trick again to hold in place restarted all fine no edc light now only got to road test now but looks like it’s fixed but will get it rescanned to make sure if i have anymore problems I know where to come Thank you for the help and pointing me the right way you are a god.

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            From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

            Great news, thanks for the update.
            Steve

  • From Mike G on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    HI Steve

    i have a 311 cdi sprinter with the usual over boost problems, sometimes it slows a bit and then is ok again. most of the time it looses power and i need to turn the key on and off

    i have changed the boost valve, boost sensor and air charge sensor. i have also tried the sensor from a working sprinter

    does this suggest the turbo vanes are the problem and the turbo is over boosting ? it seems fine on full throttle and the problem happens on part throttle.

    i am not sure but i think i can hear a whoosh – i have taken off both pipes and checked them for leaks

    any suggestions greatly appreciated

    Mike.

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Mike,
      This could be a fuel supply problem. If the boost air intake pipework is all fine, and you can see the actuator moving on the turbo body and hear boost noise (hose work pressurising also) then there is a chance you could be looking in the wrong area. Fuel pressure is a common problem for throwing the ECU into limp home with EDC lamp. Start by changing the fuel filter, check the lines to and from the tank for poor connection (especially on the filter canister). Also check the clear plastic pipes to and from the HP / LP fuel pumps for air bubbles. If you see air bubbles travelling in these you have an issue with seals some where on the diesel supply circuit. There are a selection of pipework O rings that can be renewed to cure this if its an issue.
      Let me know how you get on.
      PS a read of the ECU would maybe tell you where the problem lies, get it read if you can it could save you a great deal of time.
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Les Briggs on Mercedes Diesel Injector Advice - Sprinter and others

    Follow on , motor sounds sweeter, but on acceleration EDC Comes and kills the motor!

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Diesel Injector Advice - Sprinter and others

      Hi Les,
      its worth checking the electrical connectors to the injectors and make sure they are seated correctly and fully home. Check the turbo vac connections and determine you have boost (you should hear it and it should pressurise the pipes) Check you are not losing boost through the induction pipe or manifold (you should hear this) also make sure you have not disturbed the boost pressure sensor on the plastic intermediate pipe between intercooler and inlet manifold during the operation. You really need a code read to see where to go next. Thanks for the write-up on the ball bearing tip.
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Les Briggs on Mercedes Diesel Injector Advice - Sprinter and others

    Hi great advice column, I have removed and reassembled the top half of the injectors
    Along with the obligatory copper gasket, used the BGS technic tools
    The vito 112 CDI ran rough, but came better after about 5 minutes.
    Took it for a run, and upon doing a u turn and accelerating the ETC light came on.Lost all power. Waited a minute and started On, drove home slowly. The EDC has not come back on.
    Your thoughts?
    Also a warning to any one whom is intending to use these specialist tools, the tool grips the injector on an internal thread, so you are required to remove the solenoid, upper spring bonnet assembly, Critical to use a magnet as there is small steel ball (check valve )
    Only 1.33mm diameter & cap if you loose it your in trouble.

  • From Bryan on Mercedes Sprinter Radio Code Decoder

    Steve, I entered the last 8 of my vin and it gave me 53331 for my code. It did not work. I pulled the unit out and the model# is BE 6055 the serial # is 48016098.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!
    Bryan

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Radio Code Decoder

      53331 is what I get on the becker software decoder, try these 31331,71331 or 9331 if its a four digit unit. Failing these I am stumped!
      All the best
      Steve

  • From Nick Pelosi on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

    Hi Steve,

    Spoke to you about our 616cdi which had a new engine in which i have to say is cracking but still have a small issue, which was there prior to the engine going bang. On the motorway it’s more noticably at the limited speed of 56mph,every now and then it will do something which can only be described as like when a generator is running out of fuel it will hunt and then it disappears.
    There is know pattern to it and would say it’s done it for a good year or so. After the new engine was run in 40k on it I have put a tuning box from TDI-tuning which is super, loads more tq and power but the issue is still there, it’s just be emphasised. Can you help,many thanks in advance.nickp

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

      Hi Nick,
      I suppose when you changed the engine all the LP/HP fuel pumps were swapped over. This sounds as if there is a problem with air in the fuel, probably caused by one of the hard plastic clear pipes that connect the Low pressure pump to the HP pump feed. These have a black connector on the end that can benefit from a new O ring. Also the way the aux belt runs, really close to them slung under the HP pump it is possible if they are not retained properly that the belt could be slapping them occasionally and causing a small gulp. They should locate in some very poor plastic clips. It goes without saying that the obvious fuel filter leaks/pipework should be checked, the non return housing at the top and if you have a push in water in fuel detector in the base of the filter canister this is a known hot spot for drawing air if not fitted correctly. Another long shot would be to have a look above the tank and check the pipework especially on the fuel cooler (its a tightly wound coil of pipe say 3 inches diameter and about 8-9 long, I have had one of these leak and it did give the same issues you are getting.
      A few pointers there, but your main man MB technician should already be on top of these I guess so I doubt they are much help. Let me know.
      All the best
      Steve

      • From iain cunningham on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

        hi there i have a problem with my automatic sprinter 56reg i was slowing down at a junction and i have knocked van into park from drive i turned it off then it wouldnt start again . the stick still goes park reverse etc but doesnt turn over to start , do you have any ideas what this could be

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          From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Turbo - Limp Home - Diagnosis and Fault Finding

          Hi Iain,
          In reply to your email:
          When you say will not turn over do mean the starter does not spin at all, almost as if there is no electrical connection to the starter or does it click as if it s jammed. I will presume the former and assume that the shift selector switch maybe thinks its still in drive and of course this will inhibit the starter motor from operating. (normal safety device on an auto) I think there is a strong possibility of this.

          What does the selector indicator display on the dash? If it shows P or N and still does not start/turn over then there is a strong possibility that the gear control ECU is held in a fault condition (Is it the Sprintshift semi Auto or conventional Auto?) Any problem with the gearbox will hold off the engine from starting as a fail safe (MB Design). There is a chance that a clearing of the fault codes in the gear control module will rectify this although there could also be an internal issue causing the activation of the start inhibit failsafe. You really need to read the stored codes and unless you have a good code reader then a dealer or competent independent MB workshop is really your only source of help.

          I hope that has been of some use.
          Do please let me know how you get on.

          All the best Steve

  • From Steve herndon on Mercedes Sprinter Intermittent Turn Indicator - Cure

    I have a 3500 one ton dual , 2006 .
    I had the same issue with the turn signals working
    fine until you apply the brake, then they stop flashing,
    and partially light.
    I replaced the relay first, no change.
    Then I cut out the converter for hitch wiring!
    Work perfect now…just need to replace the convertor
    for the trailer lighting.
    Hope this helps
    Steve @ herndon electric

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      From Steve Ball on Mercedes Sprinter Intermittent Turn Indicator - Cure

      Many thanks for the note Steve,
      All the best
      Steve